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  Greenlees & Chitty -- Some Sources

  by AlanF in

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  posted on an email message board:.

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  thinkers wife

  I have been following this discussion about homosexuality within the org. It is very interesting. My ex husband was at Brooklyn Bethel from 1976 to 1981. I was married to him for almost seventeen years. IMO, much of the problems in our marriage were a result of his latent homosexuality. He also told me about the sauna incident at Brooklyn. He came to Bethel apparently a scant four years after the incident. I also met many of his co-workers whom in retrospect, I am sure are gay. The thought crossed my mind even back then, but I figured they had changed and were making an effort to serve God loyally.
  The "gossip grapevine" at Bethel is rampant and very solid. Some of the gossip I have heard on this forum (not the Greenlees and Chitty thing) was confirmed many years ago by my ex. Particularly the drinking and partying by some. I find many of these accounts very believable though unsubstatiated. IMO, after spending much time at Bethel and with some Bethelites personally, homosexuality is an issue at Bethel. Though hidden very well. My ex's roomate was dismissed for stealing, but he is definitely one of the one's I suspected as being homosexual. Do I have proof? No. But I do have my instints.
  And it wouldn't surprise me at all for the Society to cover up such an embarassing situation.
  What does suprise me (I don't know why) is the irony and the hypocrisy. The very thing the WT has talked so badly against i.e. Catholics sending homosexual priests to different areas after scandal with molestation, seems like a possible practice of their very own. I remember the saying "When you point the finger, remember there are fingers pointing back at you".
  Thanks for all the research and substantiation, though not verified.
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  Disfellowshipping Doesn't Sever Family Ties?

  by tergiversator in

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  "disfellowshipping does not sever family ties.".

  or so claims the watchtower's official faq.

  so, i would like to take an informal poll: how has being disfellowshippid/ disassociated/ inactive/ just having doubts affected relations with your family?

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  thinkers wife

  Since I da'ed myself in June of 2000, my parents have never once called me. I also got married in June of 2000. On the announcement, which was preceded by two letters one explaining my da'ing the other explaining why I was getting married without their knowlege, was my new name address and telephone number. My mother still says she never saw it. Interestingly enough before Mom admitted to "finding" my address and phone number, the elder's from my congregation called and asked to speak with me, the only place they could have gotten the number was from my mother.
  When I call them, they treat me more like an acquaitance than a daughter. My sister-in-law who had a baby in November of 2000 (whom I called to congratulate and ask about the baby), told me her husband my brother does not want to talk to me. My other brother and wife are at Bethel, and I know better than to try to contact them.
  My Uncle has emailed me and pretty much acts normal. The rest of my extended family have not contacted me. Although, I am not sure who knows I am da'ed and who doesn't because my mother is in total denial, and I don't know who she has informed. When I got divorced, she didn't tell anyone even my family. So it is hard to tell.
  I am here to testify, the Society DOES SEVER FAMILY TIES. Just my added voice to those already voicing!!
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  Leo Greenlees,

  by Kiwi in

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  i seem to remember something on the board about leo greenlees being removed from bethel & the gb.

  can anyone give me information about this.

  is he still allive and where?

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  thinkers wife

  Probably redundant, but do we have a date for the Dateline program yet?
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  murder letter

  by silentlambs in

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  lets dance, we have added "wt letters" section to the website.

  it will offer a new letter each week added to a list with an introduction.

  read the introduction, click to view the letter and see if it answers the questions.

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  thinkers wife

  I thought I had heard it all. I agree with someone's post above. They are now guilty of harboring a fugitive. Disgusting. Thanks for the post SL, it got me to go to your site!!
  And gave me one more reason for not being a part of that organization.
  TW
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  My Lonnng Story...

  by poohbear1962 in

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  2. experiences

  several folks asked to hear my story, so here goes - i hope you don't fall asleep!!

  it's a story that's been told many, many times - i was pretty much raised as a jehovahs witness (my mom was baptized when i was 6 years old), and i simply followed along and accepted for years what i was being told.

  going through school, i just learned to be different (which, in some ways, is a good thing... im hoping that will make it easier to break free).

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  thinkers wife

  There you are Pooh, had to look hard for this thread. I thought you might be referring to the same Rob I know. Just wanted to bring this back up to the top, in case you might want to communicate!
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  new here

  by jurs in

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  2. experiences

  i've been a witness for 6 years.

  when a sweet pioneer sister came to my door and i started studying i never thought i would become a witness.

  21/2 years of studying i did get baptized.

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome to the board Jurs! I only got to read through this thread very briefly, so I am sure your questions are answered. Will try to return later when I get home from work and read carefully. Our thoughts are with you, know that.
  Pooh,
  I responded to your bad experiences on another thread. I am Rob's friend too!! Would love to get to know you better!!
  TW
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  Hi

  by heff in

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  2. friends

  i have been lurking around here for quite some time now, posted a few short replies, and engaged in a little chat from time to time.

  its almost hard to remember, just a few months back, feeling like i was the only one to live through a jw experience and not be sorry that i am no longer a part of it.

  i am very happy to have found this site.. i would like to better introduce myself as i have seen several others do.. i was born in '78 to a fanatical jw mother and an unbelieving alcholic father.

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome to Heff and all the others on this thread that I have missed. I too was raised a witness and knew no other way of life. Amazing how much joy you can find when you get out!!! Everybody, whatever stage you are in, keep your chin up!
  TW
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  My Lonnng Story...

  by poohbear1962 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  several folks asked to hear my story, so here goes - i hope you don't fall asleep!!

  it's a story that's been told many, many times - i was pretty much raised as a jehovahs witness (my mom was baptized when i was 6 years old), and i simply followed along and accepted for years what i was being told.

  going through school, i just learned to be different (which, in some ways, is a good thing... im hoping that will make it easier to break free).

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  thinkers wife

  Pooh,
  I am so very sorry to read your terrible woes. The sad part is it sounds so similiar to mine. Except it was my ex JW husband who was the abusive one. I had no children, because I absolutely refused to bring children into that kind of horrible situation. I am now 41 and married to a wonderful man who was never a Witness. It is too late for children now. I would have loved to have been a mother, but not in the circumstances I was in. What a nightmare that would have been.
  I hope that you will be able to rebuild a life with your boys!!! Sounds like you are well on your way. My thoughts and hopes are with you!!!
  Jurs,
  To you as well.
  TW
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  hi im new

  by kewlgrl13 in

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  2. friends

  hi just wanted to say im new and i'v been a jw all my live im 13. and go to my site at http://pub65.ezboard.com/bryanmerriman it new so please check it out ok?

  thanx

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome Kewl and Law,
  Would Love to know a little more about you!! There is a sign in at Hello, Hello, Hello.
  TW
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  HELLO? HELLO? "ALL" SIGN IN???????

  by waiting in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  simon did away with the sex forum - so i must take the tradional route and post under "make new friends.

  " how mundane!.

  fyi ---- for all of us, please take the time to write a sentence or two about yourselves, and encourage new ones to do the same.

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  thinkers wife

  Welcome Moo, hope you stick around. Lot of good insights presented here!
  TW